The EO Mentorship Program runs for 12 months where mentors and mentees have regular monthly catch-ups, which usually last for only an hour or more. But for mentees like Jeni Clift, Owner and Co-founder of Otto, those regular conversations with her mentor, Anthony Closter, Director at Urban Land Developments, were precious to her.
Jeni Clift enjoys being a mentee as it provides her with the opportunity to learn from someone who is focused on her growth.
“For me, I think the real value is in taking a couple of hours out every month and sitting down with somebody who is completely focused on me,” Jeni remarked. “I didn’t always have specific questions or know what I needed coming to our meetings but Anthony was great at picking up on something in my month’s update and leading the conversation,” she said. Jeni understood how important it is to have someone focused on her entrepreneurial journey because she, too, has been coaching other business owners and executives as an EOS Implementor.
“I’m usually the mentor. But, yeah, I decided to throw my name in the hat to become a mentee and to be on the other side of the table for a change, to be learning from somebody else and having somebody available to reach out to when I had questions or just didn't quite know what to do,” she explained.
As a mentor, Anthony Closter appreciates that the program has given him the structure to actually help and provide some mentorship.
Anthony admits that the prospect of mentoring someone who’s been doing it herself is quite intimidating. “I was a little bit intimidated by the prospect of trying to help or mentor somebody who generally mentors other people. We first caught up with the training with Carlo and it was a little bit daunting at the time because obviously, as Jeni’s already mentioned, she trains people so she's a business/life coach in her business life.”
Although it was their first time to meet during the Mentorship Program training day, they instantly bonded well as a mentor and a mentee because they share a few common things. Jeni calls it “intimacy” (instant intimacy through EO’s confidentiality) – a term that is often used in EO – because Anthony is an ex-EOer himself.
It is for this same reason that Anthony agreed to become a mentor for this program. “I was a member of EO from 2006 to probably 2016 – for about 10 years. I got a lot out of EO and loved it and loved the way they went about it and the benefits of being a member. So, when I was asked by James Murray to be a mentor, I thought I’d jump at the opportunity and, hopefully, get to meet some more people and also give a little bit back to EO for everything that I took out of it over the 10 years.”
Apart from that, they also share other commonalities, which is why Jeni found it easy to have that trust with Anthony as her mentor. “Anthony's background appealed to me. He is regional-based, I’m in Geelong, but I’d lived in country Victoria for 20 years. He'd had some big businesses, such as in hospitality, with lots of staff. I wanted to learn from his experience managing lots of staff, as we were growing towards a bigger business,” Jeni shared.
Jeni appreciates that she could reach out to someone when she’s got concerns with her business. She recalls, “I’ve just been through some “stuff” in one of my businesses and just rang Anthony and said, ‘Hey, have you got a minute?’ He said to me at the end of the call, “Ring me every week”. I did that until things started to settle down. Having somebody that you know is on your side, that you can reach out to, knowing that those conversations are confidential and just having somebody that can give you a whole different perspective, is valuable. He's bought and sold different businesses and exited businesses so I trusted his insight.”
She adds, “It’s having somebody on your side where there's no expectation of anything in return. There are some people when you ring them and you know that they're going to expect something in return. I know that I can ring Anthony, ask him a question, he'll give me an answer and I know that he's on my side.”
Another thing Jeni values in mentorship is learning new insights from Anthony. “I don't know anything about hospitality or land development, but some of his experiences have really triggered ideas in me that I can go and put into action,” she explained. Anthony’s knowledge about connections and tapping into what he’s done before to expand his network helped Jeni to think of various ways to grow her consulting business, the EOS business, which is still in startup mode.
But it’s not just Jeni who’s learning from their regular catch-ups. Anthony has also picked a lot of ideas from Jeni as well, especially with her work on EOS. Other than business learnings, they also get to talk about life and family. For Anthony, the beauty of the EO Mentorship Program is it's being structured. “This is the first proper structured mentor process that I’ve been through and so far, it's been really good. It's a great experience. I love catching up monthly and talking about things that we’re going through. Sometimes, there are specific issues we've got to talk about and sometimes, it's just a general chit chat about what's going on in our lives.”
He added, “It has been something that has given us some structure to actually help and provide some mentorship. Hopefully, Jeni is finding that she's getting something out of it because it is a really difficult time that Jeni's in a startup and it's really hard to start a business when you've been locked down for 240 days or whatever has been. It's really tough, so I think all credit to Jeni for doing what she's doing and forging through with her business.”
Anthony has imparted encouraging words that still ring in Jeni’s mind. She recalls, “A few things that Anthony said to me through the course of our conversation that I’ve now got in the back of my mind that keeps popping up to remind me, which is to stay positive and to just keep an eye on my business and make sure that that’s still okay.”
This is what makes Jeni appreciate her mentorship journey even more, which is having a mentor who looks after her welfare as an entrepreneur. “When do you get having somebody sitting there for two hours and they're just completely for you in that time frame? But to me, that's the biggest value – the thought process that I go into before our meeting and then all I take out of that meeting to put into action over the next couple of weeks.”
Like Jeni, many EO Melbourne members are also reaping the benefits of the Mentorship Program. Recognising its value to the members, another intake is about to take place this March 2022. EO Melbourne members who are interested to be part of the program are welcome to apply at https://www.eomelbourne.org/mentorship.